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« on: October 29, 2008, 07:33:17 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxT0ELP7az0

I couldn't think of any other place to put this. Is this woman from Insania? or America?  :p
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« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2008, 11:56:29 AM »

I can't even believe how much Biden has been criticized and battered over this interview, and the fact that the whole Obama team has said they'd never grant this "news" station another interview!

I thought he gave some great answers to some really stupid questions!

(And I personally liked his incredulity of the questions!)

Some claim he acted "angry" during the interview.  I think he just acted tolerant of ignorant questions, and kept his cool.  (At least until the interview was over.)

A progressive tax system, actually ANY system of taxation - where the taxes are used to support infrastructure - is a redistribution of wealth!
McCain wants to continue redistributing that wealth disproportionally to the wealthy, with the belief that it will "trickle down".
Obama wants to STOP giving breaks to the wealthy - who have consistently NOT invested in America - and give them to the middle class for a change.
He wants to invest in infrastructure once again.
He wants to invest in corporations that produce jobs here in America.
He wants to invest in new "green" innovations... which can produce more jobs here in America, and increase valuable American exports of actual goods!

Then those middle class folks might just have an opportunity to earn better salaries and pay more taxes ... even without a tax % increase.  If you keep the % the same, but wages go up, you pay more taxes, which can then be reinvested in our country!
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« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2008, 12:33:10 PM »

I didn't hear of anything negative about Biden in this incident (but I haven't been looking as much as other people probably like yourself because I'm too nuts about what I'm nuts about and know just about all I can do is vote in NY for my party :D).

I found this on another forum posted by an admitted "Conservative" praising Biden for doing a good job of fielding these obviously extremely biased (wait, no, HYSTERICAL, over-shooting extremely presumptive) "questions"--"questions" really not even meant to be "questions" but "bait". If whomever these assholes are intend to play this as him "taking the bait" anyway, they are completely unscrupulous ideologues that trash the entire system.

I already know there are "compartments" of "factions" who have the new freedom and power to surround themselves only with what they already "believe" and that "democracy" as it was known when we were kids is totally compromised by the loss of "main stream media" and the emergence of "compartmentalized exclusivism", but this was clearly not even an "interview"--it was a staged "baiting" operation bent on painting it's own success and own bull shit self righteousness regardless of what actually happened. It is an "attack" which shows how far segments of the population have slid into complete acquiescence to naked (by our standards of media propriety) MANIPULATION. How "evil" are these people really?

Somehow, if "we" win, we have to get serious with adjusting democracy (or the democratized "representative" hierarchy system we've practiced as democracy) to new modalities of "propriety" that make propaganda lynchings like this farce  NEWS in itself for being so underhanded. No way should stuff like this really be going on in this country and standing as some kind of "NEWS". If it does, we suck and America is a really falling piss puddle of backwardness that deserves its decline.   :(    Damn angry? Guilty as charged.
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« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2008, 01:25:13 PM »

I'm sick of CNN and MSNBC and Faux News....

Even though several "reporters" on CNN and MSNBC tend to lean left, I'm still fed up with all of them MAKING the news rather than reporting it!

The need to fill the airwaves 24/7 means that they frequently cover topics that are very questionably "news".
Too often they bring up controversial topics that people haven't even thought about until AFTER the pundits talk about it!

I think the media has focused on the race issue, as an example, more than a lot of the public.
I've heard about "The Bradley Effect" so many times that I can't listen to it any longer.
The saddest part is that several sources have proven that the BE might have been innacurate back when it happened.
(The Bradley effect was when a black man ran for office - in California I think - and polls showed him winning handily.... and then he lost.
the assumption that was rushed to was that white folks lied to the pollsters, but then would not / could not bring themselves to vote for a black man once they got inside the voting booth.

It's been shown that the polling methods were suspect to begin with.
And it is just as likely in THIS election that people may not be able to bring themselves to tell a pollster they've voting for Obama, but may very well do so once inside the booth.

But my point is that all news media is not REPORTING as much as they are now editorializing and "directing" or strongly effecting what is happening and how people are thinking.

Topics of choice... inflection, inuendo, facial expressions.... I think all of these have a huge impact on people's perceptions and subsequent decisions.
But it certainly appears we're stuck with it.
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« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2008, 10:11:07 AM »

I see your point. It's a sensationalism-driven business with built-in pressure to over-step standards of actual reporting and replace them with competitive assertion of implied predictive superiority which is often completely wrong and there is no mechanism for reconciling the performance of media accuracy. "People" are not generally looking at television or radio from an active posture--they are conditioned to passivity where the crap just keeps getting more and more wild. One might see this as analogous to the total "free market" environment where pressure for profits and lack of any regulation tends to always facilitate at least disenegeuousness if not purposeful dishonesty and an attitude of self-assurance in plunder.

These kind of things give me ideas but I have so many already. I'd like to see at least the last main steam media begin to address the reality of "compartmentalizat ion" and the potential for propagandic exclusivism and for some indexing system to come out where broadcast and cable media are rated for their tendency to favor  an ideology-agenda of "news coloring". It would have to be a system with the middle being the "top" rather than someone just determining who is good or bad.
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« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2008, 07:10:25 AM »

"News Coloring" is an excellent term.  (I don't know if you just made it up or not - but it's good!)

When I tune in to watch Keith Olbermann, or Jon Stewart, or Colbert... I KNOW that's what I'm going to get!  That's what they do!
And they happen to usually "color" it to my liking, and in a humorous manner... so I enjoy it.
But I'm fully aware that it is colored news.
So I am well prepared to view it in precisely that light, and mentally acknowlege that there is another side to the story.

But too often slanted stories are presented as factual news... when in reality they are editorials.  And a lot of people can't tell the difference, and accept it as fact.  The "slant" is subtle, but usually intentional.
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